The "Let's keep Dearborn from taking the goodness out of the FoE Fiesta" Thread!

[golf strom]

I noticed that the old threads from the focaljet Fiesta site are mysteriously gone. You remember the ones that were questioning the changes in the excellent Euro Fiesta seats, the deletion of the rear fog lamp and similar items even though they don't cost a penny to retain and there are NO DOT EPA regs about them either!!!!

Lets keep the fiddling hands of US Ford designers in the light and keep them from turning the Fiestas into US MKI Focus part II.


Now on to the show. If you have concerns about anything at all about the design being changed please post up here. I noticed that this new sub site "Fiesta Faction" looks a bit sterile.

[PowerShift]

I don't think it was anything political. I think they just wanted to seperate the Focus and Fiesta Forums, but had to get rid of all the old Fiesta discussion to do it.

[golf strom]

I think it is weird though because some of the threads WERE transferred but the old posts were deleted (the Fiesta Agent car stolen). I noticed that any debate about the "Fiesta Movement" "Agents"campaign was deleted. Hmmm.

In any case lets try and keep this thread on topic.

I certainly hope that if Dearborn DOES deceide to make a Merican style seat for the Fiesta, that US buyers will have the option to select the euro spec seats at a reasonable cost.

I definitely rememeber the MKI Focus situation in the USA. It is true that initially when the US Focus came out it came with Euro spec seats (not the recaro style just standard trim level) they were EXCELLENT, after a number of years Dearborn troublesome hand stepped in and supplied a US spec seat, and yes they were awful.

[BRGT350]

Golf Storm,
There is no indication from Ford that they are planning on making drastic changes to the Fiesta to "americanize" it to the extent they did with the 2008 Focus. We are now in the time of One Ford, which means most of the foolishness from a few years ago is going away.

[BRGT350]

Originally Posted by golf strom

I think it is weird though because some of the threads WERE transferred but the old posts were deleted (the Fiesta Agent car stolen). I noticed that any debate about the "Fiesta Movement" "Agents"campaign was deleted. Hmmm.

In any case lets try and keep this thread on topic.

I certainly hope that if Dearborn DOES deceide to make a Merican style seat for the Fiesta, that US buyers will have the option to select the euro spec seats at a reasonable cost.

I definitely rememeber the MKI Focus situation in the USA. It is true that initially when the US Focus came out it came with Euro spec seats (not the recaro style just standard trim level) they were EXCELLENT, after a number of years Dearborn troublesome hand stepped in and supplied a US spec seat, and yes they were awful.

I actually found the factory ZX3 seat in the 2000 Focus to be not that great for me. My knee had too much pressure on it, and would hurt after driving. Even the EAP Recaro's have the same issue, and it may be directly related to command seating. The Fiesta seats are very nice, but there is a stiff peice of foam that puts pressure on my lower back. It is not bad, but not perfect. Don't think that the European seat is magically perfect. The only seats I have found to be excellent are the Recaro seat I had in my Mustang. My Kevlar RaceTech seat is good, but only for about 10 minutes. That is one of the most expensive race seats on the planet, and it is not perfect either. What I may find to be a good seat, may be bad for somebody else. I don't think what side of the pond you are on matters for that.

[golf strom]

I have had quite a bit of seat time in a number of FoE cars, like MKI and MKI Focus, last generation Fiesta, Ka, and Mondeo, and after a number of hours in each I can say that overall the comfort was excellent and strain from time in the seat was minimal. I am an average male at 5' 9" and 150 lbs and I didn't notice the problem with the 2000 Focus ZX3, or the Euro cars I mentioned. I can't remember the foam issue for the lower back at all in my experience.

Regarding the euro cloth, I also haven't noticed any short comings with the cloth in any FoE product of recent memory. They all looked and resisted wear in a high quality way. Love the euro design in the newFiesta cloth.

[PowerShift]

It will be a different seat for the US. There's a YouTube video about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxnU...e=channel_page

[golf strom]

Originally Posted by PowerShift

It will be a different seat for the US. There's a YouTube video about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxnU...e=channel_page

The question is WHY? Like others mentioned in old threads in focaljet, one of the biggest pluses most of the agents and others said they like were the EURO spec seating.


Like I said before if Dearborn wants to supply a US specific seat as standard for the US car that is fine, but there are many potential buyers that will be turned off at this thought, let ME choose which version I select. Ford definitely should offer up the Euro seat to US buyers at a slightly higher cost. If I have no choice about this matter it would definitely deter me from purchasing the Fiesta. Seats are one of the most important items in my vehicle!!!!!!

I can tell you that having spend seat time in both US and Euro spec Fords (not referring to recaro sport seats just basic seating trim), there is no contest, FoE do seating better every time.

[FiestaFaction-1]

Originally Posted by golf strom

I noticed that the old threads from the focaljet Fiesta site are mysteriously gone. You remember the ones that were questioning the changes in the excellent Euro Fiesta seats, the deletion of the rear fog lamp and similar items even though they don't cost a penny to retain and there are NO DOT EPA regs about them either!!!!

By all means, feel free to continue your conversation, we just didn't have a decent way to move those threads over here.

[BRGT350]

from training I did not think the car was going to be amercanized, but looking at the spy pics, I am fearing the worst. This goes beyond seats and fog lamps, the changes extend to the terrible chrome grille that haunts the Focus. If I wanted chrome, I would buy a caddie. I am not a rapper, I don't want a chromed-out-nose.