2011 Ford Fiesta US-spec, officially unveiled

[golf strom]

Originally Posted by LMTech

Exactly why they make a bare bones S model. It is for people that just want to buy a new vehicle and doesn't care about the equipment in it. They just want to get from point a to point b.

True, but from a volume/cost beancounter standpoint it probably would have been cheaper to simply put the same interior trim/ cloth from the SE in this. The cloth fabric is the same only the color/design pattern is different.

I'm thinking that this will be a "fleet" special perhaps.

[Mattdoommaster]

Golf, you're kind of like one of those random essay generators.

Just lace some random comment with "the "OLD" Dearborn raising their ugly head" and you've got a Golf post!

[golf strom]

Originally Posted by Mattdoommaster

Golf, you're kind of like one of those random essay generators.

Just lace some random comment with "the "OLD" Dearborn raising their ugly head" and you've got a Golf post!

Hey Matt...

The truth sucks!

I really hope that over the next decade US Ford will totally erase the stale ways of doing things but some legacy management style lingers on from what I have seen. Not surprising at all. It's going to take a decade to wash away all the "old ways" of doing things.

I suppose the Fiesta is a nice start, perhaps the MK III Focus the US gets will be almost 100% identical to the RoW car. I think it is possible.

[LMTech]

Originally Posted by golf strom

True, but from a volume/cost beancounter standpoint it probably would have been cheaper to simply put the same interior trim/ cloth from the SE in this. The cloth fabric is the same only the color/design pattern is different.

I'm thinking that this will be a "fleet" special perhaps.

Then customers that choose to the SE would have felt that the were getting the S interior. Price of cloth is the same no matter the color.

[Mattdoommaster]

Originally Posted by golf strom

Hey Matt...

The truth sucks!

I really hope that over the next decade US Ford will totally erase the stale ways of doing things but some legacy management style lingers on from what I have seen. Not surprising at all. It's going to take a decade to wash away all the "old ways" of doing things.

I suppose the Fiesta is a nice start, perhaps the MK III Focus the US gets will be almost 100% identical to the RoW car. I think it is possible.

You are completely out of touch with reality.

[LMTech]

Originally Posted by golf strom

I really hope that over the next decade US Ford will totally erase the stale ways of doing things but some legacy management style lingers on from what I have seen. Not surprising at all. It's going to take a decade to wash away all the "old ways" of doing things.

I think it is already gone away otherwise the Fiesta Movement would never had happened ?

[golf strom]

I agree LMT that Ford has come a long way in a short time, amazingly so for such a big company.

[LMTech]

Originally Posted by golf strom

I agree LMT that Ford has come a long way in a short time, amazingly so for such a big company.

But in the last post you said it was going to take a decade. What is going on one minute it is going to take a decade and the next they have come a long way in a short amount of time. Make a statement and stick with it. This is starting to bore and confuse me and and lot of others I am sure. I guess it does help me add onto my post count though and I guess that is the point of all your post. Lets see how did that go The Truth Sucks ?

[golf strom]

I think you are missing the complex nature of what I am trying to communicate.

To reiterate...I think that alot of the big hurdles that has hindered Dearborn management are gone, its the "small niggling loose ends" that are going to take awhile to completely cast off... Various proceedures, certain old staff that in any company seem immune to the pink slip for whatever reason, interactions between mfr and suppliers, and dealers...stuff like this...There are a HUGE amount of details in a corporation that can indeed take many years to update and change....It reminds me of defragging a hard disk. You may defrag once but yet some loose ends are still there, refgrag twice almost everything that isn't supposed to be there is gone..there might be a few files that are corrupted and are extremely difficult or nearly impossible to remove they take lots of work to extract..you get the idea. The smallest details oftentimes take the longest amount of time to address and correct.

[LMTech]

No you were saying that it was completly hopeless that they could make a change in the way that business is done and that any changes to the Fiesta had to be proof of this.