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Old 12-09-2009, 11:24 PM
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We have no idea how many of these 1000 reservations are legit and how many are just people playing with the configurator. Since there's no obligation, and you don't provide any meaningful personal info I'd guess at least 25% aren't serious and probably won't buy.

That said, I am serious and I want to make sure I'm near the front of the waiting list so I'm speaking to a dealer this weekend about how I can get my order into the factory system ASAP.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:26 PM
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Well Ford is bragging that the car will sell high and that all who have test driven the car are sure to reserve. So far I've seen quite a bit of negative reaction to the car from those who have driven it. Mainly due to the cars front end lacking fog lamps and changes to the dash.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:29 PM
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Well maybe 75 is closer, but we'll see. I would definitely not compare it to the F-series trucks-that's the flagship moneymaker by far. As for the Fusion, that is more sales than I knew of; good point there.
Oh, and 15k/month? From summer to year end 2010 you mean?

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Old 12-09-2009, 11:38 PM
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Well maybe 75 is closer, but we'll see. I would definitely not compare it to the F-series trucks-that's the flagship moneymaker by far. As for the Fusion, that is more sales than I knew of; good point there.
Oh, and 15k/month? From summer to year end 2010 you mean?
Yea, from summer to year end 2010 is what I mean.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:37 AM
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Well Ford is bragging that the car will sell high and that all who have test driven the car are sure to reserve. So far I've seen quite a bit of negative reaction to the car from those who have driven it. Mainly due to the cars front end lacking fog lamps and changes to the dash.
Who on earth do you know who has driven it?

The only people who could possibly be disappointed with the lack of fog lamps and the dash are those who both need a perspective check and know exactly what the Euro interior looks like. The number of those people compared to the number of actual potential Fiesta owners is extremely low, as has been pointed out before.

The US interior is just as good materials-wise as the Euro interior going by all the auto show pictures and Ford's own press-shots (which of course is no guarantee that that's the case, but it certainly does look that way), and the design is a bit different yes but nothing major. So it seriously makes no sense where you're coming from, though the lack of fog-lamps is a valid concern for drivers in certain regions.

I don't know if we'll see the Fiesta top all its competitors in sales, but it doesn't need to. It's an image-builder and is meant to draw new customers to the Ford brand, and I think if it can sell in decent enough numbers (50-60k a year) it will succeed on both counts very, very well.

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Old 12-10-2009, 01:46 AM
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I don't know if we'll see the Fiesta top all its competitors in sales, but it doesn't need to. It's an image-builder and is meant to draw new customers to the Ford brand, and I think if it can sell in decent enough numbers (50-60k a year) it will succeed on both counts very, very well.
Exactly.

The Fiesta Movement should be called the Ford Movement. Ford wants young people (like me!) to buy this car, and love this car, so five or ten years down the road we'll be buying Fusions instead of Accords.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:02 AM
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Well Ford is bragging that the car will sell high and that all who have test driven the car are sure to reserve. So far I've seen quite a bit of negative reaction to the car from those who have driven it. Mainly due to the cars front end lacking fog lamps and changes to the dash.
I think you are off base here. Very few people have driven the US car. Ford did invite a number of European Auto Journalists and FoE engineers over to drive the US car to compare it to the EU version, and they were all impressed. I am also not sure where the negative reaction you are hearing about the dash is coming from. Have you actually talked to anyone who has seen and touched both the EU and US dashes? I have sat in both cars, and for the most part, I like the US dash better. The seats are way better! As for the fog lamps, I kind of wish they were real fog lamps and not parking lights, but that sure is not causing me not to buy the car. Before I buy into your negative reaction story, I want to see actual data showing there is more neg reaction than positive. Also, it better be from people who know both cars and are not making arm chair comments based on rendered pictures.

If not having fog lamps, and the slight changes to the dash to meet a few US requirements are going to cause you not to buy the car, chances are that you were not buying one anyway.
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That said, I am serious and I want to make sure I'm near the front of the waiting list so I'm speaking to a dealer this weekend about how I can get my order into the factory system ASAP.

Powereshift, if you don't mind me asking, are you going to negotiate on the price when you go in or are you satisfied with the price as is? When I bought my Protege5 I found I hit a brick wall, as far as negotiating was concerned, because I was negotiating prior to any cars even being delivered to dealerships. Seems like I'm in the same situation again.
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I have never had issues going over prices for new cars since I always got them on X-Plan being a supplier. My price is pretty much set when I walk in the door. My Focus and our Escape were purchased that way. Our only issue with the Escape was finding a 2007 Limited in the combo my wife wanted. Production was short on the 07's because the chromed-out 08's started early. Chrome is something banned at our house.
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Having read numerous amounts of comments from articles on Car&Driver Motor Trend and Autoblog there were some negative reactions to the design of the car and many from those who have test driven the Euro Fiesta (90% of all negative reactions were towards the stupid LED Chrome Vents as opposed to real fog lamps). And as I recall Ford claims they're going to be able to sell nearly 100,000 units in 2010 for the Fiesta. But seeing how low the reservation numbers are I'm suspecting that Ford's numbers are going to be way off.
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