Hill holder for 5MT?

[turbospecc]

Does the manual transmission also get a hill-holder function? Did not see this toted so I'm guessing no.

[Audrey]

A parking break? o,0

[mrbirdman330]

Originally Posted by turbospecc

Does the manual transmission also get a hill-holder function? Did not see this toted so I'm guessing no.

A true manual transmission driver knows how to take off on an incline without rolling back. It isn't that hard to do. Relying on such technologies in my opinion is simply promoting laziness and a lack of confidence in ones skills.

[Ataru]

Originally Posted by mrbirdman330

A true manual transmission driver knows how to take off on an incline without rolling back. It isn't that hard to do. Relying on such technologies in my opinion is simply promoting laziness and a lack of confidence in ones skills.

He asked if it has a hill holder, not your opinion on how it promotes laziness.
If you are going to put out your opinion, at least take the time to answer his question as well.....

[mrbirdman330]

Sorry about that coming off as harsh.

[turbospecc]

Originally Posted by mrbirdman330

A true manual transmission driver knows how to take off on an incline without rolling back. It isn't that hard to do. Relying on such technologies in my opinion is simply promoting laziness and a lack of confidence in ones skills.

I originally felt that it was a silly piece of tech for unskilled drivers when I had my 2006 WRX STI, but after getting used to it on my 3-series I absolutely love it. I also like to feel a bit elitist about driving a manual, but after actually having it on a car and experiencing it in the daily grind, it is a fantastic feature, and would certainly help encourage more people to buy the manual (such as the family member I'm hoping will pick up a 5-speed Fiesta) and perhaps slow the ultimate demise of a true row-your-own-gears transmission choice.

Also it's great for most people since 90% of manual transmission drivers I see (non-enthusiasts) burn up the clutch whenever they take off normally, so must absolutely fry it on a hill.

[eRic]

Originally Posted by turbospecc

Does the manual transmission also get a hill-holder function? Did not see this toted so I'm guessing no.

No. the automatic has "hill start assist" but the manual does not. the 2011 Fiesta owners guide talks about hill start assist and shifting from D to P or P to R and so on.

[turbospecc]

Good to know, thanks.

I guess even the 2010 Mazda3 which is the class-leader on the next level up doesn't have it, but woulda been nice given the array of other tech on the Fiesta!

[Chan]

I haven't driven a manual transmission in a car in a couple of years, but the parking brake does come in handy.

[Marc]

Today I drove the company car - a VW Passat 2.0 turbo diesel wagon manual. It lacks a normal handbrake but a button instead! It took a little while to get used to the hill holder effect. Hmmm, interesting technology, but I have driven without one all my life and will continue to do so.

(Apart from that, I found the Passat an appliance. It was like sitting in a La-Z-Boy with a steering wheel. It was quiet, it was comfy, has all creature comforts, but there just wasn't any involvement at all! Good for account managers who spend most of their time on the road, not so good for driving enthusiasts like me.)