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Old 08-14-2010, 12:07 PM
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Default 0-60 Fiesta vs Mazda2?

So what's with the varying 0-60 times for both cars? In one article it's said taht the Fiesta is faster and in another it's the Mazda2. Has anyone done a back-to-back comparison of the two cars?

For the Fiesta I've seen quoted 0-60 times for the manual from 8.6 to 9.5 seconds and for the Mazda2 from 9.0 to 10.0. Obviously there are some variations in temperature, traction and driver skill but it still seems to me like we should be able to nail down which car is faster...
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:10 PM
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It's hard to say, since the Mazda is down 20hp but is also 100+lbs lighter. I think the manual-equipped cars would be pretty neck-in-neck, while the automatic Fiesta would get the edge thanks to its 2 extra gears.
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:14 PM
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I looked on CarandDriver.com test results

2011 Mazda 2 Touring
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 10.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 38.9 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 10.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.9 sec @ 77 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 103 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 181 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

2011 Ford Fiesta SEL
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 9.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 29.1
Street start, 5–60 mph: 9.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.0 sec @ 82 mph
Top speed (Drag Limited): 119 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 175 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:47 AM
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Just wanted to add alittle info because it isn't quite an apples to apples comparison. Auto hatchback vs manual sedan. I would expect to see some comparison tests coming out very soon. I am really interested in the Mazda2 vs. Fiesta vs. Fit stack up, maybe throw a base mini cooper in there also.

2011 Mazda 2 Touring
Displacement: 91 cu in, 1498 cc
Power (SAE net): 100 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 98 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 4-speed automatic
Curb weight: 2341 lb
Mazda 2 Review: 2011 Mazda 2 Touring Automatic Test ? Car and Driver

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 10.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 38.9 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 10.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.9 sec @ 77 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 103 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 181 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

2011 Ford Fiesta SEL
Displacement: 97 cu in, 1596 cc
Power (SAE net): 120 bhp @ 6350 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 112 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 5-speed manual
Curb weight: 2583 lb
2011 Ford Fiesta SEL - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 9.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 29.1
Street start, 5–60 mph: 9.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.0 sec @ 82 mph
Top speed (Drag Limited): 119 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 175 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g

2007 Mini Cooper
Displacement: 98 cu in, 1598cc
Power (SAE net): 118 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 114 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual
Curb weight: 2555 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 7.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 24.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 16.3 sec @ 85 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 126 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 162 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.84 g

2007 Mini Cooper - Specs - Car and Driver

Not to get too off topic with the Mini, but I a surprised by how much quicker the mini is than the fiesta considering how similar they are on paper.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:39 AM
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The Powershift Fiesta is most likely faster than the 5-speed manual. Better gearing and faster shifts.
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Default 5 speed Fiesta vs Mazda 2

Edmund's had the Fiesta at 10.0 and the Mazda 2 at 10.3
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I think others have already hit the nail on the head, but, yeah. These cars are new, 0-60 places a lot of emphasis on how the driver operates the engine, clutch, shifter. To make matters worse, a lot of fiesta reviews were done with the eurospec fiestas (different MT gear ratios?) Ford boated over for promotion purposes, or with different trim packages, transmissions, etc. Finally, of course, different temperature/wind conditions at the review's test track come into play, even driver weight! Also, if the review's engine is low-miles it may not even be fully broken in yet.

The fiesta has a power edge vs the mazda2, though it's not overwhelming when you factor in transmission differences and power-to-weight.
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With the larger amount of power present in the Fiesta I would think that even if a Mazda could get out in front 0-50 or 0-60, that lead would diminish as speeds increased. Passing 50-75 would be a cake walk for the Fiesta compared to the Mazda.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:33 PM
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There's a hill I go up only a couple times a year, but every time I find myself in the passing lane to get by a semi or other slow-poke in the right-hand lane. In my old car the prospect of getting above 50MPH (even if I tried starting the hill around 70MPH) by the end of the hill was unlikely; similarly passing people in the mountain passes passing lane (argh, wordy) was arduous/improbable. I was glad to find that my Fiesta had little problem on this hill, despite icy conditions, and accelerated as I went up this catalyst test hill. The 0-60 speed, for me, is moot. I can accelerate to pass people that I need to pass even when going uphill in conditions my 97 Escort couldn't handle. So to me the Fiesta's acceleration and power is just fine.

When does the 0-60 matter for a car at this price point? If you can pass people, uphill, where else is such a statistic realistically important? I don't ask to sound condescending, but rather I am genuinely curious.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:05 PM
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from the November 2010 issue of Road & Track road test summary
Fiesta SES 5dr 0-60 mph 9.7s. 1/4 mi [email protected] mph. 0-100 mph 33.2 top speed 118 mph
Mazda2 Touring 0-60 mph 9.4s. 1/4 mi [email protected] mph. 0-100 mph n/a top speed 112 mph
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