Fiesta Intake Shootout

[CheoTrawford]

Am I the only one who wants to see this? I want to see multiple intakes tested on the same dyno, on the same day, and compare the dyno results. As far as I know, the following companies make aftermarket intakes for the '11 Fiesta-

• Injen
• Steeda
• BoeschBuilt
• FSWerks
• AEM
• K&N

I mean, what if (and I know this is going to sound crazy) we also had 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for each intake setup? All this info would give buyers an accurate way to determine which intake would be best for them.

How can we make this happen?

[FSWerksVP]

All it takes is money.

[CheoTrawford]

Originally Posted by FSWerksVP

All it takes is money.

That's ~$1200 to purchase all those intakes, and that doesn't even take into account renting a dyno and buying a VBOX for accurate 1/4 mile and 0-60 times.

That's a lot of money.

[FSWerksVP]

Yes and that's why these things don't happen all that often. It's a great idea for the consumers, but it's easy to screw up the tests and you really have to do it all in a very short amount of time for it to be accurate. Though you have to allow for the car to cool down adequately, too, between runs, etc. It's just a real PITA.

[CheoTrawford]

Originally Posted by FSWerksVP

Yes and that's why these things don't happen all that often. It's a great idea for the consumers, but it's easy to screw up the tests and you really have to do it all in a very short amount of time for it to be accurate. Though you have to allow for the car to cool down adequately, too, between runs, etc. It's just a real PITA.

I'm sure it's one of those "easier-said-than-done" situations, I don't doubt that. I just think it would be good for potential consumers and the companies that sell the products to said consumers.

[macdarren]

Honestly all those CAIs are so similar I doubt you could gather any seriously meaningful data in just one run each. You would need several with each intake and even then I would suspect the vagaries of dyno testing would pobably mask most any differences in the systems. I mean you are talking about a few horsepower here or there in the rev range

Maybe it is because I have not had the very best equipment but rarely have I seen two dyno runs with the exact same motor be identical. Sure they can be averaged out if you do enough but there can easily be a few horse variation from a good run compared to a bad run.

That said I do like the idea of a 10+ hp gain advertised by at least one of the above CAI makers.

[bneale]

Wasn't there already a thread on this very subject?

I for one would like to see this kind of test be done. I'm interested in Autocrossing and I really want to see what intake simply performs the best. Which one makes the most power and how is power delivered. A nice sound is just an added plus for me as well as gas milage.

I for one would love to see this test. Be it realistic or not, it would be nice to see something like this done.

bneale

[CheoTrawford]

Originally Posted by macdarren

Honestly all those CAIs are so similar I doubt you could gather any seriously meaningful data in just one run each. You would need several with each intake and even then I would suspect the vagaries of dyno testing would pobably mask most any differences in the systems. I mean you are talking about a few horsepower here or there in the rev range

Maybe it is because I have not had the very best equipment but rarely have I seen two dyno runs with the exact same motor be identical. Sure they can be averaged out if you do enough but there can easily be a few horse variation from a good run compared to a bad run.

That said I do like the idea of a 10+ hp gain advertised by at least one of the above CAI makers.

Well sure, the differences may seems small, but a 3hp variation between manufactures can weigh heavily when you're deciding which intake you want to buy. This is a relatively small engine- ever horse counts

Originally Posted by bneale

Wasn't there already a thread on this very subject?

I for one would like to see this kind of test be done. I'm interested in Autocrossing and I really want to see what intake simply performs the best. Which one makes the most power and how is power delivered. A nice sound is just an added plus for me as well as gas milage.

I for one would love to see this test. Be it realistic or not, it would be nice to see something like this done.

bneale

If there was already a thread like this, I missed it. Sorry if this is a repost- I didn't even bother searching

I just think it'd be great to get a somewhat scientific comparison between all of these intakes. I understand there are going to be some variations that can't be controlled, but a test on the same car, on the same dyno, on the same day is going to give a much more accurate representation of what each intake brings to the table than the information available to us now.

[TJK.40]

This thread is very interesting. I'm trying to decide on an intake system for my fiesta. Happily foy all of us, the choices are increasing.
So far, this is what I could gather, but I don't trust manufacter figures that much, so a real world comparision would be great:

Injen: 6 hp; 7 ft-lb
Takeda: 6 hp; 7 ft-lb
R2C: 9 hp; 11 ft-lb
AEM: 11 hp; 14 ft-lb
BoeschBuilt: N/A; N/A
Steeda: 7 hp; 3 ft-lb
FSWerks: N/A; N/A (I canīt see the graphs here at my office)
K&N: N/A; N/A (although it says "guaranteed horsepower" in the packaging)

The numbers don't say anything without charts, and without knowing where the output was measured, that's why a comparision in a dyno would be great. Whay I want is maximun power and torque gains, but a decent gain in the mid-rpm range.

If anyone has more data, please chime in.

[aspitaletto]

Originally Posted by TJK.40

The numbers don't say anything without charts, and without knowing where the output was measured, that's why a comparision in a dyno would be great. Whay I want is maximun power and torque gains, but a decent gain in the
mid-rpm range.

If anyone has more data, please chime in.

Exactly, the differences in each locations Dyno also will skew the results.