1.0 Ecoboost vs 1.6: which did you get and why?

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Polk

Discussion Starter · Feb 17, 2015

I know I posted a similar question in the Ecoboost forum, but thought there might be a different audience here...

So, the title pretty much sums up my question. Did you get the 1.0 Ecoboost or the 1.6L standard engine? Why? If you have driven both, what are your thoughts?

I intend to get a Fiesta, but of course finding an Ecoboost to test drive can be challenging; and even then you can only discern so much during a short test drive. I like the idea of faster and better fuel economy of the Ecoboost, but the lower cost (buying a 2-3 year old 1.6 vs. a one year old Ecoboost) and potentially freer revving 1.6 is also inviting. Does the 1.6 really feel much slower? Either way will be a manual transmission.

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cuemark8

· #21 · Feb 23, 2015

Hopefully in time the 1.6NA goes away. It's a decent engine for what it is. It an aging engine and not real high-tech. Once the 1.0L becomes proven to be reliable over hundreds of thousands of miles of driving, maybe then it will become the only engine offering. Goverment fuel economy standards are only set to continue to rise and more fuel efficient engine options will be continually needed.

Even if Ford doesn't use the 1.0L as the main engine, I look for a NA gasoline direct-injection engine as a future option for Ford. Some of Fiestas direct competitors, like the FIT, use a new direct-injection engine. An engine like that is still cheaper than something turbocharged but still brings better fuel mileage and power and torque to the vehicle.

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Captainmorbid

· #22 · Feb 23, 2015

The 1.6 non turbo will be gone for the next generation Fiesta platform. If there is a non turbo engine available it would likely be derived from Ford's fairly new 1.5 Ecoboost engine.

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FordService

· #23 · Feb 24, 2015

Polk said:
In saying it won't start, I mean that the starter does not run. There is one click, like a starter solenoid, but the starter motor does not run

It is definitely not the clutch pedal. With the clutch in there would be the one click. Without the clutch in the click would not happen.

The thing that initially concerned me is that there are multiple reports of cars doing the same thing, but a few hours later they start right up. When that happens the repair shop cannot diagnose and fix it because there is nothing to diagnose and fix. I can't have a car that randomly does not start for reasons explained above. However, when the car was towed to the dealer eleven hours later it was still not starting. If the car continues to not start and the dealer can diagnose and fix an obvious defect I might keep the car. I was pretty excited about it and was looking forward to experiencing the unusual engine.

Do you have any updates from the dealer? I want to see how I can best assist.

Meagan

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Polk

Discussion Starter · #24 · Feb 26, 2015

Hi Meagan-

Thanks for responding. The car did start for the dealer on Monday morning (it was towed there Friday evening), but they were able to diagnose that the battery had likely been frozen at some point and cracked a plate, creating intermittent amperage problems. We had some seriously cold weather here a couple weeks ago (-20F or colder) and the car had been sitting on the lot for a while. They also cleaned the battery cable connection to the body, which I had noticed was painted. I picked up the car on Monday evening and have had a couple of busy days since then, with a lot of trips and a lot of starting the car. So far, so good. Since two issues were found, each of which I agree would cause starting problems, I am feeling more confident in the car. The frustration level of having a new car not start 18 hours after buying it was pretty high! And then reading multiple accounts of unresolved starting problems didn't help. Huntington Ford in Rochester Hills, MI, where I bought the car, and Gene Butman Ford in Ypsilanti, where I took it for service (4 miles from home vs. 60 miles to Huntington) were both great to work with through this. So...a long story, but the problem seems to be fixed.

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Polk

Discussion Starter · #25 · Feb 26, 2015

So...back to our originally scheduled program. As the OP, why did I buy a 1.0? I don't really have a scientific or logical answer; it simply appealed more to me. I think it did all along, but I have always bought used cars and maybe I was trying to talk myself into the 1.6 instead of buying a new, or essentially new, car to get the 1.0.

I like having a slightly off-beat car around; we also have a Mazda5 with a manual transmission. The Fiesta is replacing a 1996 Miata, so it had to be something pretty engaging to drive. The chugging and whistling sounds of the 1.0 really appealed to me, and the quirkiness of a 999cc, three cylinder turbo engine was too much for me to pass up.

The SE trim has all the options I want. I actually did not want MFT or leather, and this car has the comfort package with heated seats (see my previous post about -20F temps!). The steel wheels are no big deal; they will eventually get snow tires and I will get some alloy wheels for the summer.

And did I mention the color is Green Envy?

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Choppers

· #26 · Feb 28, 2015

Hi all, new here. I have not drove a 1.6L and I chose my 1.0L Fiesta just because I deliver newspapers on rural areas and at the time I was looking for a new car the top two MPG cars (gas only) was the Mirage and Fiesta. I wanted a sedan fiesta had more room. I had to search for a 1.0L then had to drive over an hour one way to get it. This is my 2nd new car and its much better than my first (neon srt4) built better only problem I've had is it doesn't tell me when to change the oil and the dealer is going to replace the ecm but its been back ordered for 4 months now. I currently have 44k on my car got it in April 2014. Idk how well the 1.6L would do but my route is any where from 96 miles to 191 hard miles on the biggest day. Some Sundays I load it right to the gvwr there is a scale next door. I've recorded my day by day mpg and average to date. Using fuel from the pump not what the car tells me. As of now I am getting 29.4 MPG was just above 32 before winter hit and the excessive idling started. Sometimes I wish it was an auto just cause pressing the clutch in thousands of times lol but it wouldn't be as fun to drive. Handles nice engine is gutless till you get up around 3k then it starts to scream not at all fast. In fact I think its the slowest car I have ever owned but it gets great fuel economy. I have driven one trip from WI to Iowa and back ranging from 65 to 80mph over 570ish miles I got 46.7mpg. I am a very spirited driver I'm about to be on my 3rd set of brakes and just put on my 3rd set of tires just to give you an idea of how spirited! Over all I would buy another 1.0L if I lose mine to a deer. I can't wait to see how long the little 3 banger holds up to my punishment. Sorry for the long response thank you all in advance for any help you may provide in the future.

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jstucki

· #27 · Aug 2, 2017

1.6L NA all the way

Polk said:
I know I posted a similar question in the Ecoboost forum, but thought there might be a different audience here...

So, the title pretty much sums up my question. Did you get the 1.0 Ecoboost or the 1.6L standard engine? Why? If you have driven both, what are your thoughts?

I intend to get a Fiesta, but of course finding an Ecoboost to test drive can be challenging; and even then you can only discern so much during a short test drive. I like the idea of faster and better fuel economy of the Ecoboost, but the lower cost (buying a 2-3 year old 1.6 vs. a one year old Ecoboost) and potentially freer revving 1.6 is also inviting. Does the 1.6 really feel much slower? Either way will be a manual transmission.

Just two weeks ago I bought a 2017 Fiesta with the 1.6L and the 5 speed manual. I did my best to research not just the car but the various engines and transmissions in detail (though I admit I am not a car expert). I chose the 1.6L and the 5 speed manual because they are long-time, proven platforms whose incremental improvements in power and refinement have stood the test of time. The first iterations of both of these items go back to the early 90's and have demonstrated long-time durability.

Plus, 120hp in a 2700lb. car is almost as good as my 97 Mustang's 150hp in a 3300lb. car! The stick makes it fun to drive the fuel economy is 50% better than my Mustang.

I got the SE trim which has power-everything, Bluetooth, and cruise control. Overall, I am very happy.

I did test drive the 1.0L. I am very sensitive to motion sickness (hence why I like small cars that are low to the ground where I can feel the road). The 1.0L vibrated more than I could tolerate. The 1.6L is more balanced and quieter. The 1.0L was undeniably more powerful, but like I said earlier, the 1.6L has plenty of power for the size of car this is.

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Fiestabeav

· #28 · Aug 8, 2017

I picked up the 1.6 sedan yesterday. I owned a '14 Rio and i will say, the rio is a little faster. But everything feels more solid with the steering, cornering, and shifting. Most other compacts feel kinda plastic, i really like mine. I think this has more potential than the 1.0 turbo even without any boost. Just wont sound as cool.

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paulclairejohnson198

· #29 · 5 mo ago

cuemark8 said:
Hmmm, most of us bought the 1.6L because it was the only choice available. Being here in the states we only get a tiny sampling of the 1.0L. While the rest of the world gets to enjoy the 1.0L in all it's glory, we only get it in some obscure, half-assed configuration. Had I been able to buy the Fiesta in Titanium trim and with the 1.0L engine, it would be in my driveway! Over the weekend. I attended the Pittsburgh International Autoshow. It's nothing spectacular like the Detroit Autoshow. It basically a collection of about every make and model of vehicle on the road. Ford had probably the biggest display and representation of any.manufacture there. They had cutout and display of the 1.0L ecoboost. I spoke to a salesperson from the local Pittsburgh Fors dealer that provided the display vehicles. The salesperson said that that particular dealership had only ever sold one 1.0L Fiesta. It was a vehicle Ford had allocated to them. Never did they sell another one, nor ordered one, they had few people come and inquire about a Fiesta with the 1.0L, but no buyers. They order them all with the 1.6L. Ford raves all about the ecoboost series of engines. Ford does nothing to advertise the Fiesta, except maybe through social media, or by accident through a 3rd party review. The average person in the market and considering purchase of a new vehicle isn't even aware that Fiesta even exists, let alone some obscure 1.0L 3cylinder engine.

Hi I can't speak for the fiestas as an owner but I did have a courtesy car fiesta for a week and they pick up well. I have owned a 99 plate focus 1.6 titanium and from 0 to 40 was quick but damm slow up from there. The cornering ability is outstanding though. I also owned a 2006 focus titanium for 10 years and that 1.6 had great pick up and even more cornering ability. Just two days ago I bought a 1ltr ecoboost focus titanium x and I can assure you all that engine is very fast and as it being an x version it has all the bells n whistles. In short great economy so far , great engine , great pick up after 2 seconds turbo lag and much faster that my previous cars. I love my focus' s but fiestas are a lot of fun with good power also.

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Kingdeleted

· #30 · 8 d ago

paulclairejohnson198 said:
Hi I can't speak for the fiestas as an owner but I did have a courtesy car fiesta for a week and they pick up well. I have owned a 99 plate focus 1.6 titanium and from 0 to 40 was quick but damm slow up from there. The cornering ability is outstanding though. I also owned a 2006 focus titanium for 10 years and that 1.6 had great pick up and even more cornering ability. Just two days ago I bought a 1ltr ecoboost focus titanium x and I can assure you all that engine is very fast and as it being an x version it has all the bells n whistles. In short great economy so far , great engine , great pick up after 2 seconds turbo lag and much faster that my previous cars. I love my focus' s but fiestas are a lot of fun with good power also.

Oh that’s awesome man! These 1.0 are just so much fun. I wish they still sold fiestas here in the states but it Sounds like you are over the pond.

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