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Completely stock.
87 octane. (~1,500 miles / Feb 19th 2014)
148whp / 150ft-lbs (134whp/136ft-lbs UNCORRECTED)
91 octane. (~800 miles / Jan 10th 2014)
146whp / 139ft-lbs (135whp/129ft-lbs UNCORRECTED)
100 octane Race Fuel. (~1,900 miles / Mar 8th 2014)
162whp / 150ft-lbs (142whp/135ft-lbs UNCORRECTED)

In my opinion, the power difference between 87 & 91 is within margin of error. We are contributing the 'power gains' in torque due to a motor that is more broken in at the 1500 mile mark versus 800 miles. Could also be environmental factors as well. If anything I personally would have expected 87 octane to yield lower results, so this was a little bit of a surprise.

100 Octane Race Fuel should not be used as a comparison to standard pump fuels. Race Fuels may contain formulas that sometimes yield higher power outputs over traditional unleaded. Take the corrected numbers from the 100 octane run with a grain of salt, the correction factor was fairly high during dyno day. Video & Sheets are below. Since I was allowed a single printout on dyno day, I opted for uncorrected printouts. I'm willing to bet the 180ft/lbs corrected number in the video is suppose to be 150ft/lbs, that may have been a miscommunication to the person writing the results on the board.

Datalogged output using Torque Pro on my phone, just a tick under 20psi at the peak using 91 octane, and 19psi using 87, I haven't analyzed the logs from 100 octane yet.

Comparison between 87 & 91 octane:


87 Octane Datalog:


Original 91 octane runs:


91 Octane Datalog:

It's amazing how flat the AFR's remain. Direct injection allows for some impressive mixtures under boost.



For those who would like to see raw numbers:
87 Octane Feb 19th 2014 Run:
Correction Factor: 1.109
Temp: 77.79F
Pressure: 26.858 InHg
Humidity: 7.872%
134whp/136ft-lbs UNCORRECTED

91 Octane Jan 10th 2014 Run:
Correction Factor: 1.078
Temp: 62.84F
Pressure: 27.136 InHg
Humidity: 15.108%
135whp/129ft-lbs UNCORRECTED

The dyno operator never veers from the analog inputs. I have pictures of these environmentals from both runs. If anyone is interested I can post them as well.

*UPDATE*
UNCORRECTED dyno sheets:




YouTube video from Dyno Day 3-8-2014 (Fiesta @ 1:24 mark):

 

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Man that is some great numbers from 1.0L :cool: , very nice linear climb in power along with rpms, Ford hit this one out the park!! Thanks for taking the time to strap it down and post. :eek:
 

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Hey dirtbag (hehe will always giggle replying to your screen name),

Are there any mods out there yet for this car? The HP is only 35 or so less than a stock Fiesta ST. The torque though is no where near a Fiesta ST. That one extra cyl does the trick! I'm wondering what it would take to get to the 180 HP range to equal an ST? Still couldn't compete without that torque, but would be nice to get into the 180 ballpark. Probably takes a lot though. What will your first mod be??
PS. I'm soooo darn close to getting a red 1.0 like yours!! Just can't see paying $600 dealer doc fees and so far they won't budge!! Argh!!!
 

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.........I'm wondering what it would take to get to the 180 HP range to equal an ST?
.....What will your first mod be??
PS. I'm soooo darn close to getting a red 1.0 like yours!! Just can't see paying $600 dealer doc fees and so far they won't budge!! Argh!!!
I don't think the 1.0L will ever get to the ST performance levels and maintain the reliable and/or cost factor. The ST is so much more of a car all around. It'd be like chasing an uphill battle. At 180whp I'm almost certain would require a higher octane fuel and maybe a larger turbo, running that would only be realistic at the track. Driving around on $7.50/gal 100 octane fuel would be expensive. However, I may be able to squeeze more low end/midrange torque by throwing more boost at it. But up top you can see the tiny turbo is running out of breath above 5,000 rpms.

I hear ya on a new car purchase. It makes no financial sense on purchasing a new car. Throw in 1st year registration, sales tax, insurance, and depreciation it's a bit of a hit right away. You're better off waiting a couple years and pick up an ST or 1.0L Ecoboost second hand. My reason for buying this specific car was purely emotional. It's almost like a win for the Americas that we finally start getting a taste of what's offered overseas. I just hope the 1.0L is a success to a point where plenty of them are available to second hand purchasers for both performance enthusiasts and ecomodders. It's quite a fun car.

I'm waiting for SCT and Superchips to have something available. I need a way to tune the ECU before I start throwing bolt-ons at it. I'll update the thread under the performance section as I make mods.
 

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Wow that's surprising! How much of the numbers do you think had to do with using 91?

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I don't think the 1.0L will ever get to the ST performance levels and maintain the reliable and/or cost factor. The ST is so much more of a car all around. It'd be like chasing an uphill battle. At 180whp I'm almost certain would require a higher octane fuel and maybe a larger turbo, running that would only be realistic at the track. Driving around on $7.50/gal 100 octane fuel would be expensive. However, I may be able to squeeze more low end/midrange torque by throwing more boost at it. But up top you can see the tiny turbo is running out of breath above 5,000 rpms.

I hear ya on a new car purchase. It makes no financial sense on purchasing a new car. Throw in 1st year registration, sales tax, insurance, and depreciation it's a bit of a hit right away. You're better off waiting a couple years and pick up an ST or 1.0L Ecoboost second hand. My reason for buying this specific car was purely emotional. It's almost like a win for the Americas that we finally start getting a taste of what's offered overseas. I just hope the 1.0L is a success to a point where plenty of them are available to second hand purchasers for both performance enthusiasts and ecomodders. It's quite a fun car.

I'm waiting for SCT and Superchips to have something available. I need a way to tune the ECU before I start throwing bolt-ons at it. I'll update the thread under the performance section as I make mods.
Oh yea I realize the 1.0 will never catch the ST. Was just curious as to how much it would take to get to 180HP on the 1.0. Like you mentioned, A LOT haha! And I'm sure few owners will ever try.

I'm buying for some of the same reasons as you. There are other choices out there for me, including a regular Fiesta SE, but I really like how unique this car is. I've only had forced induction cars in the last two decades or so. I'd like to keep it that way even if it's a 1.0 turbo. And I personally don't think it will be around very long if Ford sticks with a manual transmission. I tried getting a new Civic LX, but at 2 dealerships I was told they won't ever order a manual again unless it's a custom order. America has spoken and the manual transmission is out. Sad to me, but I'm obviously in the minority.

Can't wait to see your next mods. And the 87 octane dyno!
PS. Are you going to stick with those stock wheels??
 

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Can't wait to see your next mods. And the 87 octane dyno!
PS. Are you going to stick with those stock wheels??
I'm really curious about 87 octane numbers as well. It'll take me about a month to go through this tank of fuel. I have no way of measuring the knock count, I can't say how much 91 octane played a role at producing such high numbers. Maybe Ford publishes hp/tq numbers using low grade fuel???

As far as the wheels, oh god no, they're hideous. I begged the dealership to let me buy the stock SE rims and tires and they would not budge. I'll wait until these tires are worn before that upgrade. It needs tint before summer rolls around.

The vehicle has about 800 miles on it.
 

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As far as the wheels, oh god no, they're hideous. I begged the dealership to let me buy the stock SE rims and tires and they would not budge. I'll wait until these tires are worn before that upgrade. It needs tint before summer rolls around.
Haha yea pictures don't can't even show how ugly the wheels are. Another reason I don't think Ford believes in this car for the US market and is only testing the waters. When I first saw them in person, it was "what were they thinking"? I've found quite a few Fiesta ST wheel/tire combos online for $700 or less. I personally wouldn't want to spruce up a 1.0 to look like an ST though. I have to think there's some decent deals with the regular SE aluminum wheels out there. Curious, did the dealer even give you a price for the stock SE rims? Or did they simply say they wouldn't sell them?
 

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I think Ford is doing us a favour by forcing us to buy the steel wheels.

Have you seen how crappy their painted alloys look after five years ?

Now go look at the steelies with wheel covers after five years.

The odd package is Ford's way of telling you that $995 is not enough to get you this engine.
 

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I think Ford is doing us a favour by forcing us to buy the steel wheels.

Have you seen how crappy their painted alloys look after five years ?

Now go look at the steelies with wheel covers after five years.

The odd package is Ford's way of telling you that $995 is not enough to get you this engine.
Yea cost cutting measure I get it. But damn they are ugly haha!! I haven't paid attention to how bad their alloy wheels deteriorate. Is it bad? I was thinking of getting some SE Titanium wheels if I buy an ecoboost 1.0. Are they crap?
 

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Its impressive how much power this little engine puts down. Can't wait to see how much power with 87 oct.

You should contact united motorsports for chip tuning. They are really good in making custom softwares. Ask them if they would be interested in tuning the 1.0L. They do wonders with VW and Audi.
 

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The steelies with hub caps are probably there for the extra MPG they help eek out. Before the ecoboost when they had the SFE package I'm pretty sure it was the same wheel/hub cap combo.
 

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Pumaspeed has the 1.0 litre 3 cylinder package for the Fiesta and they are doing at 167 hp. Ford Fiesta Fiesta Mk.7.5 Zetec-S 1.0 Ecoboost - Number 1 European Ford Mail Order Parts Supplier of Focus ST Fiesta ST 150 Focus RS Focus RS Mk2 2009, Superchips Remaps Air Filters Milltek Sport Exhaust by Pumaspeed Performance Tuning
I don't think the 1.0L will ever get to the ST performance levels and maintain the reliable and/or cost factor. The ST is so much more of a car all around. It'd be like chasing an uphill battle. At 180whp I'm almost certain would require a higher octane fuel and maybe a larger turbo, running that would only be realistic at the track. Driving around on $7.50/gal 100 octane fuel would be expensive. However, I may be able to squeeze more low end/midrange torque by throwing more boost at it. But up top you can see the tiny turbo is running out of breath above 5,000 rpms.

I hear ya on a new car purchase. It makes no financial sense on purchasing a new car. Throw in 1st year registration, sales tax, insurance, and depreciation it's a bit of a hit right away. You're better off waiting a couple years and pick up an ST or 1.0L Ecoboost second hand. My reason for buying this specific car was purely emotional. It's almost like a win for the Americas that we finally start getting a taste of what's offered overseas. I just hope the 1.0L is a success to a point where plenty of them are available to second hand purchasers for both performance enthusiasts and ecomodders. It's quite a fun car.

I'm waiting for SCT and Superchips to have something available. I need a way to tune the ECU before I start throwing bolt-ons at it. I'll update the thread under the performance section as I make mods.
 

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I find the Fiesta line up to be very impressive. There is a trim level for every buyer in the small car market with these cars. I own an ST, but appreciate all trims. Those numbers are very impressive, BTW.

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167 engine hp isn't that far off from the stock ~146 wheel hp I got using 91 octane fuel... I suspect the turbo is maxed out at the upper RPMS However, look at the torque they were able to achieve!!! 60+ more ft/lbs over stock! That's a pretty huge improvement. The US versions of the 1.0L supposedly have a different ECU, I'm waiting to hear back from the folks overseas to see if they were able to obtain enough info for a tune. I imagine since this vehicle is more popular everywhere else, they're making the US market a lower priority.

I have another dyno scheduled next week using 87 Octane, then another March 8th using 100 Octane. Then my baselines will be complete.
 

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167 engine hp isn't that far off from the stock ~146 wheel hp I got using 91 octane fuel... I suspect the turbo is maxed out at the upper RPMS However, look at the torque they were able to achieve!!! 60+ more ft/lbs over stock! That's a pretty huge improvement. The US versions of the 1.0L supposedly have a different ECU, I'm waiting to hear back from the folks overseas to see if they were able to obtain enough info for a tune. I imagine since this vehicle is more popular everywhere else, they're making the US market a lower priority.

I have another dyno scheduled next week using 87 Octane, then another March 8th using 100 Octane. Then my baselines will be complete.
I wouldn't be surprised if the american model has a different ecu/ tuning. Would be nice to know if they have the same turbo or different. Its crazy though that your making as much power as a tuned version in europe, but with less torque.
 

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Where you running 100% fuel, or the (unfortunately) more common "up tp 10% ethanol"?

I'm really curious about 87 octane numbers as well. It'll take me about a month to go through this tank of fuel. I have no way of measuring the knock count, I can't say how much 91 octane played a role at producing such high numbers. Maybe Ford publishes hp/tq numbers using low grade fuel???

As far as the wheels, oh god no, they're hideous. I begged the dealership to let me buy the stock SE rims and tires and they would not budge. I'll wait until these tires are worn before that upgrade. It needs tint before summer rolls around.

The vehicle has about 800 miles on it.
 
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