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Ford Canada website for Follow the Fiesta Follow the Fiesta
8 cars 4 cities across Canada, cars are in Quebec City now, then Montreal , Toronto and Vancouver. Plus a chance to win a Fiesta contest.
Check it out.
 

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"Fiesta Facts
- North American Debut of Ford Kinetic Design
- Voice-Activated Sync technology
- Available Push-button start
- 4-door sedan and 5-door hatchback
- Power shift automatic transmission"

Kinetic design debut? So I assume more to come?



ps Mais oui!
 

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Push-button start I see. Maybe not as watered-down as some have been saying then?

Though personally I'm far far more excited about the PowerShift...
 

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From what they're saying in design is something that is a bit puzzling.
 

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From what they're saying in design is something that is a bit puzzling.
Why is it puzzling?

The Fiesta will be the first Kinetic Ford designed car in Canada (Canada is part of North America), hence the wording "North American Debut of Ford Kinetic Design".

If you know of another Kinetic Ford designed car in North America please share.
 

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Mondeo is suppose to come over badged as the Fusion from what I've been hearing.
 

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Makes you wonder what we, Europeans, would get in return.
Ford Ranger? Nope, ours is the Thai Mazda B-series!

(There are specialized US car import company's here, but I mean through the official channels)
 

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There wasn't much difference between your Ranger and ours until this latest redesign you guys are getting, but I think its in the works for us to get it as well.
 

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See thats what has me going if thats going to be the debuted model if it is, then I can proudly admit and sigh greatly in relief that I was wrong about the exterior changes.
 

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Now only time will tell. Hopefully the huge amount of commenting we have done will have sunk into the rather robust skulls in Dearborn. Although the arrogance that still remains inside the corporate halls is very difficult to overcome because many of these people (top managers and execs) think THEY know better than the customer.
 

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See thats what has me going if thats going to be the debuted model if it is, then I can proudly admit and sigh greatly in relief that I was wrong about the exterior changes.
You didn't seriously think they were giving the car a complete reskin? Have you even looked at the spy shots? From those pictures, of which there have probably been 2 dozen plus, it's perfectly clear that the body/midsection of the car is completely identical to the Euro model, it's just the front and rear end that are getting changes (and even then are keeping most of the Euro styling theme, if not the exact original design, intact)
 

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And what in fact have I been saying, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CAR STILL LOOKS THE GOT DAMNED SAME JUST SOME MINOR TWEAKING TO THE CURRENT DESIGN TO FIT CRASH STANDARDS. I am not going to admit that I was wrong when that damn thing debuts in December with a stupid Mach 3 Chrome grill which I don't need on a car, a back bumper that gets in the way of trying to put stuff in the back hatch because my shins have to be against the car when i shift stuff around the back,and not to mention keeps falling victim to what my Focus does, idiots who can't friggin drive and hit my rear bumper pulling into parking lots. My back bumper is on its fifth repaint job and guess what its damaged already. I can't afford to have it repainted again for a long time so I'm stuck with it. Now then DON'T twist what I said, I said if that model displayed on the Fiesta Canada site is the debuted model I would admit being wrong. I'm fighting against any cosmetic changes against a car that does not need them for this market except to look like the rest of the fugly line up because we gotta have a stupid chrome grill to sell a car that doesn't need it.
 

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Alright, I took what you said to mean you were surprised the car was getting Kinetic Design cues at all. Which it is, just with some differences. Sorry if I was an asshat about it.

But the cosmetic changes are unavoidable; even if Ford kept the grille the same the front end probably needs to be a bit longer anyway to conform to crash standards. Just look at the Honda Fit, the whole front end is pushed out on the American model relative to the global car! They kept the fascia the same but elongated the nose, and personally I'd prefer Ford to keep the proportions intact and give the car a different bumper than elongate the whole front end like the Fit and ruin the car's basic profile.

Bitching about the back bumper isn't going to change anything on the Fiesta either, it's just regulations and THOSE cannot be avoided no matter how much you/me/Ford wants it. Write to your congressman or the DOT or whoever is responsible and tell them we need globally unified regulations...THAT would accomplish alot more than just whining about how we're not getting the amazing flawless European car.

PS - The Fiesta will probably be the last Ford to get the Mach 3 grille; the Taurus already has a much more "European" grille (still 3 bars) and I imagine the next Focus will do away with that look altogether. Time will tell but the point is Ford is moving away from the 3-bar look and trying to do it gradually instead of dropping it abruptly, which IMO makes sense. Now if it was something like the Subaru grille from the Tribeca, which was universally derided, Ford might drop it immediately but the Mach 3 grille is generally okay by most people so they've kept it, and since the 3-bar grilled cars have sold well they're just phasing it out more slowly to avoid customer confusion.
 

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I'm fighting against any cosmetic changes against a car that does not need them for this market except to look like the rest of the fugly line up because we gotta have a stupid chrome grill to sell a car that doesn't need it.

Right on!

Whomever is forcing the unnecessary " Dearborn family heritage" program along NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!! NOW!

It has even been stated by Mulally that the "red, white, and bold" theme is phased out now. in favor of the "kenetic theme,so WHY keep it going on a new model that is being pitched to the import crowd????? Let that theme to the truck division...that is where it belongs.
 

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It is useless trying to reason with either of you. IN FORD'S OPINION it is better for the brand to phase out the old look gradually in favor of the Kinetic theme, it keeps the brand more coherent instead of making them look scatterbrained and inconsistent. Now you may or may not agree with that view but it's what Ford's doing and it at least shows they have a plan and are sticking with it, which in the end is what they need to do in order to be a successful company.
 

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I DON'T disagree with that plan if it applies to the US oriented products Fusion and Taurus, but the Fiesta is SUPPOSED to be dramatically different and it appeals to a very audience and it makes sense that you WANT to differentiate it from the US products. If we are looking at the new face of Ford why keep grafting the old face on to a new product?
 
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