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Fiesta will get EcoBoost… eventually

Fiesta will get EcoBoost--just not when it launches next summer

When asked about EcoBoost Derrick Kuzak, Ford group vice president of global product development, told Automotive News:

“It's coming,”

I had lunch with Mr. Kuzak a couple of weeks ago and he basically said the same thing to me. I thought that was "off the record". Guess not. :lol:

I think you are going to see more effort put into the Fiesta than any small car Ford has ever released in the US. In some ways, they have already done that.

 

[LMTech]

It's to bad that they aren't offering from Job 1 because I would have put that on the one that I reserved. I guess I will have to wait for FSwerks kit and give them my money instead Ford. Besides Ford's ECOboost will probably be a smaller engine anyway. Sorry for your loss Ford. I am not going to buy 2 cars within a year or 2 just to get ECOBoost and I think I have waited long enough already for the Fiesta.

 

[Chibana]

And I wonder *which* EcoBoost? I'm not sure I would be interested in a 3-cyclinder. If it got an EcoBoost 1.6L as a performance option with little fuel efficiency hit (like the current EcoBoost vehicles), I'd be all over it, especially if they offered paddle shifters on the PowerShift transmission. I am also disappointed this 1.6L engine isn't direct injected. I know why it isn't, but I'm hoping it will become direct injected in the near future. That's good for what, a 10-15% increase in power, torque, and gas mileage?

 

[LMTech]

I am also disappointed this 1.6L engine isn't direct injected. I know why it isn't, but I'm hoping it will become direct injected in the near future. That's good for what, a 10-15% increase in power, torque, and gas mileage?

I don't know why you say that the engine isn't direct injection. I don't know of any current gas EFI motor that isn't direct multi point injected.
As far as the paddle shifters I would say that they will probably show up when the ECOBoost motor shows up just like they did on the Taurus,MKS,MKT,etc.

 

[Mattdoommaster]

I wouldn't hold my breath on a performance EcoBoost model - or an EcoBoost model at all. Ford doesn't really have any plans for an ST anywhere right now, even in hot hatch loving Europe, so I doubt they'll bring one into the states anytime soon.

 

[BRGT350]

I got the feeling that besides the SHO, EcoBoost is all about MPG and not HP. Don't get too excited and think we are getting a 150+hp turbo ST Fiesta or something like what SVT would build. Probably get the same hp as the NA Fiesta, with a few more MPG. I said I would pay $1k more for less MPG and 50 more HP. I got some strange looks when I said that in a meeting.

 

[LMTech]

I got the feeling that besides the SHO, EcoBoost is all about MPG and not HP. Don't get too excited and think we are getting a 150+hp turbo ST Fiesta or something like what SVT would build. Probably get the same hp as the NA Fiesta, with a few more MPG. I said I would pay $1k more for less MPG and 50 more HP. I got some strange looks when I said that in a meeting.

ECOBoost is ,from the 3 cars that I mentioned,about MPG but also about making a V6 have the power of a V8. So if they put an ECOBoost on a 4cyl it should have the power of a V6 with 4cyl MPG,not the power of a bigger 4cyl and better MPG. I also can tell you that the ECOBoost option on a MKS is 5000 dollars,but it is also a twin turbo and package includes other items in it as any option like that always does.

 

[BRGT350]

I am just saying not to expect a turbo option with more power for the Fiesta. There is this idea that EcoBoost Fiesta means something like 150-180hp. I am guessing something like 120hp with 40+mpg. I would rather have 180hp with 30-35 mpg. That is surely not the direction the feds want cars to be going, and Ford is smart enough to know that. If the enthusiasts want more power, we will have to look at the aftermarket.

 

[LMTech]

If the enthusiasts want more power, we will have to look at the aftermarket.

Thats what I was saying before,that is where I am looking. Plus if the ECOBoost option doesn't add some power over the 1.6L 119hp then I think it will be a hard sell for people who actually look at the numbers.

 

[blurbyu]

Personally, I see the SHO and realize that Ford hasn't given up on higher (heavy on the er) performance models. Especially since SVT still exists and is modifying vehicles.
It's not that far fetched to see more performance oriented vehicles coming.
If they weren't planning using EcoBoost for it's performance enhancing properties, they never should have built the SHO... They have now set the expectation that EcoBoost can and will be used to enhance performance even at the expense of economy.

Now, if they choose to not do this in the Fiesta, I can sorta understand. It's the economy car of the line up. Though, in my eyes, it's the perfect candidate.
It's small, nimble, and there are already multiple EcoBoost engines that should be able to fit in the engine bay with minimal effort.

 

[Chibana]

I don't know why you say that the engine isn't direct injection. I don't know of any current gas EFI motor that isn't direct multi point injected.
As far as the paddle shifters I would say that they will probably show up when the ECOBoost motor shows up just like they did on the Taurus,MKS,MKT,etc.

Direct injection, as in, the fuel is directly injected into the cylinders, as in the EcoBoost engines, and as in what Ford has claimed is going to be the case with all of their engines in the not-too-distant future. This technology has shown to result in significant improvements in torque, power, and fuel efficiency, even in normally aspirated engines.

Gasoline direct injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LMTech]

I guess I learned something today

 

[streetfiesta]

The mazdaspeed3 uses direct injection. Awesome power with reasonable gas mileage (around 26 mpg). Direct injection is the future for all cars I imagine