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This is from Warren Brown's article posted today (July 4th). Obviously no one can say he is misspeaking. What's the deal?

Engine/transmission: It comes with a 1.6-liter, 16-valve (variable valve timing) in-line four-cylinder engine. A five-speed manual transmission is standard at this writing. An optional six-speed automatic, which also can be shifted manually, will be available in late summer or early fall.

Since it seems that only Powershift 6-speed equipped cars are the ones being held back at the factory in Mexico, maybe Ford is being nice and upgrading our transmissions to the new paddle-shift version.

Seriously though,....Note to Ford; Maybe you should actually upgrade our cars with the paddle-shift version to make up for holding onto our cars for over 5 weeks now and not telling us why.

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Save yourself the disappointment, your car will arrive without paddle shifters.
 

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I drove a paddle shift bimmer. I am so glad it wasn't mine. The paddle shift is no replacement for a clutch and stick. Most of the people on the bimmer forums that love sticks but went with a paddle shifter because they thought it's kinda the same and would be easier in traffic are dissappointed and live in regret.
 

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I drove a paddle shift bimmer. I am so glad it wasn't mine. The paddle shift is no replacement for a clutch and stick. Most of the people on the bimmer forums that love sticks but went with a paddle shifter because they thought it's kinda the same and would be easier in traffic are dissappointed and live in regret.

Very accurate description...

You should DEFINITELY drive a "dsg" style transmission BEFORE you plunk your money down.....while you CAN "manually" shift them the the computer is still controlling the actual shifting and many times they have their own mind.

No eco shift or power shift is a substitute for a REAL manual with a stick and clutch.
 

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Our new GMC Savannahs at U-Haul the Ten Foot D models have a manual shift select but its still partial automatic. I was toying with it over the week on one I got to drive back, while I like how it definately comes in handy on the interstate its not good for in town driving because its a column shifter with a +/- button on the shifter. I did enjoy the fact though that having a sixth gear on the interstate did increase the fuel mileage from 8 to 12 running at 70 mph.
 

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This is from Warren Brown's article posted today (July 4th). Obviously no one can say he is misspeaking. What's the deal?

Engine/transmission: It comes with a 1.6-liter, 16-valve (variable valve timing) in-line four-cylinder engine. A five-speed manual transmission is standard at this writing. An optional six-speed automatic, which also can be shifted manually, will be available in late summer or early fall.

Since it seems that only Powershift 6-speed equipped cars are the ones being held back at the factory in Mexico, maybe Ford is being nice and upgrading our transmissions to the new paddle-shift version.
That's news to me and everyone that I've talked to at auto shows and Fiesta ride and drives. You would think that info would be on their media site http://media.ford.com/images/10031/Fiesta_SixSpeed_PowerShift.pdf

more likely Warren Brown got the info mixed up.
 

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If you want to shift, get the stick. Don't like to shift get the auto. The computer overrides you all the time. My wifes minivan had a sixspeed you can shift it your self, it overrides you all the time. I don't mean keeping you from going over redline by a few hundred rpm, but it wants you to be very near the ideal gear, so it shifts almost like it "D".

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65 Corvair 2 speed:eek: auto. Yes, really it has only 2 speeds. Works good, not great good,
 

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If you want to shift, get the stick. Don't like to shift get the auto. The computer overrides you all the time. My wifes minivan had a sixspeed you can shift it your self, it overrides you all the time. I don't mean keeping you from going over redline by a few hundred rpm, but it wants you to be very near the ideal gear, so it shifts almost like it "D".

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65 Corvair 2 speed:eek: auto. Yes, really it has only 2 speeds. Works good, not great good,
I could care less about paddle-shifters. I just thought it was interesting if true. The only reason I would want them is that if they become a standard feature on the Powershift equipped cars, my resale value will take a hit.
 

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This is the second time he has said this since Friday though. I wouldn't think he would risk his reputation as an automotive journalist unless he knew it to be a fact.
He could just be mistaken and/or just made an incorrect assumption. The I-4 versions of the Fusion now have the option for a "SelectShift" automatic. The V6 Fusion and some Taurus models offer it as well. I guess "naturally" he could have assumed that this "new" transmission was just the same thing meant for the Fiesta. Given the trend of Ford's current and future lineup, we'll probably see SelectShift making its way down to the Fiesta.

I'm sure there are individuals out there who are incorrect (or minsinformed) about a fact, and they keep spitting out that fact. It doesn't necessarily make them correct just because of their stature and if they say it more than once ;)
 

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Wouldn't be the first time a "notable" US automotive journalist stated misinfomation, and they get PAID to be accurate. LOL:D
 

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I'm sure there are individuals out there who are incorrect (or minsinformed) about a fact, and they keep spitting out that fact. It doesn't necessarily make them correct just because of their stature and if they say it more than once ;)
No too easy,no too easy,not taking the bait.
 

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This is the second time he has said this since Friday though. I wouldn't think he would risk his reputation as an automotive journalist unless he new it to be a fact.
hmm. to be honest I've never heard of warren brown until today. I'm curious why Mark Phelan didn't mention this in the freep on July 1. we'll see if it happens. that would be cool and would make the Fit haters happy :)
 

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I'd have to be on the see it to believe it boat for paddle shifters but not my cup of tea. I still plan on getting the full manual. After seeing and trying the paddleshifters on a SHO Taurus I just got the feeling in a rush of really going nuts on an autocross track or full track in general I could snap them easily.
 
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