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Reminds me of the (Saturn) Astra.Using the central locking system to "lock all" or "unlock all" (from the fob or dash button) includes the hatch lock.
I.e. after you "unlock all" using the central lock system, the hatch remains closed, but you or someone else can then open it by pressing the button hidden under the hand hold (where you would naturally grab to open it). After you "lock all", pressing that button no longer opens the hatch.
It is a lot more intuitive and easy to use than the Volkswagen Golf, that's for sure. That car had a separate control for the hatch lock (on the key or a control inside the car). The central locking "lock all" and "unlock all" did not affect the state of the hatch lock. And if you unlocked the hatch, you had to be quick in opening it, because it would relock after a short time.Reminds me of the (Saturn) Astra.![]()
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate your help!Using the central locking system to "lock all" or "unlock all" (from the fob or dash button) includes the hatch lock.
I.e. after you "unlock all" using the central lock system, the hatch remains closed, but you or someone else can then open it by pressing the button hidden under the hand hold (where you would naturally grab to open it). After you "lock all", pressing that button no longer opens the hatch.
It is a lot more intuitive and easy to use than the Volkswagen Golf, that's for sure. That car had a separate control for the hatch lock (on the key or a control inside the car). The central locking "lock all" and "unlock all" did not affect the state of the hatch lock. And if you unlocked the hatch, you had to be quick in opening it, because it would relock after a short time.]
It does not increase security in a Golf, where the inside hatch unlock button, fold down back seats, and cargo cover are not lockable. Anyone who can open any door lock on a Golf can get into the cargo area. While the valet key on a Golf does not open the outside hatch lock, a dishonest valet can open the hatch either through the back seats or the inside hatch unlock.The reason they did this was to increase security...VW Golfs have had a seperate hatch lock release for years now located in the interior seperate from the door unlock button..It is a bit of a pain but I understand WHY it was designed this way.
It does not increase security in a Golf, where the inside hatch unlock button, fold down back seats, and cargo cover are not lockable. Anyone who can open any door lock on a Golf can get into the cargo area. While the valet key on a Golf does not open the outside hatch lock, a dishonest valet can open the hatch either through the back seats or the inside hatch unlock.
If I understand correctly, Jettas have lockable folding rear seats, and a lock near the trunk unlock button which is not operable by the valet key, so having a separate arrangement for the trunk makes sense. But not on a Golf.
That's a pretty rare case for anyone who cares about keeping thieves out of the vehicle -- you'd naturally lock everything when leaving the car if there was the possibility of theft. Locking the hatchback lid but not the doors does not seem to be a sensible use case when there is risk of theft.tjl....it increases security not in the literal sense so much as theives looking for a quick grap oppurtunity (lifting the hatch) are slowed down so that it will deter a potential thief..lots of criminals do NOT want to go through the effort of moving a parcel shelf, folding seats ect in their criminal exploits....
A hatchback is naturally a bit less secure than a booted vehicle....
That's a pretty rare case for anyone who cares about keeping thieves out of the vehicle -- you'd naturally lock everything when leaving the car if there was the possibility of theft. Locking the hatchback lid but not the doors does not seem to be a sensible use case when there is risk of theft.
And what about European cultures would cause someone to think that their car is "secure" against casual theft from the cargo area when the hatchback lid is locked but the doors are unlocked? (Of course, the Fiesta was originally designed for sale in the EU, and it does not have the odd hatchback lid locking arrangement that the VW Golf does.)Different cultures and people interperet all kinds of scenarios .......differently... that is WHY you find EU cars often times use different approaches to various tasks and problems.
Thank goodness future Ford cars will be decidedly Euro in such matters..![]()
And what about European cultures would cause someone to think that their car is "secure" against casual theft from the cargo area when the hatchback lid is locked but the doors are unlocked? (Of course, the Fiesta was originally designed for sale in the EU, and it does not have the odd hatchback lid locking arrangement that the VW Golf does.)