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I'm hoping this won't happen but I have a feeling that it will. I remember not too long ago when the Honda Fit went on sale here in the U.S. Honda dealers were adding on ridiculous markups. A new Fit Sport that had an msrp of say $17,750 was marked up to $20,750. That's crazy! I know it all comes down to supply and demand. Hopefully Ford can keep up with the demand. I have a strong feeling that the Fiesta is going to sell well beyond Ford's projections. I believe right now at this moment it is the second best selling car in Europe.

Who here thinks Ford dealers will be gouging (especially right out of the gate) when the all new Fiesta goes on sale here in the U.S.?
 

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I don't think they will gouge but you may not be doing any bargaining off sticker.
 

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It depends on the state you're in, California has very high and notorious markup of their sales by over 14% of what I have seen. Usually states like Nebraska, Iowa, Florida, and Missiouri tend to have low markups.
 

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It could happen. Ford's been stingy with supplies of the new Taurus, so who knows. I'd be shocked if the Fiesta isn't a hit right out of the box, so there could be some price gouging especially if gas prices are climbing by next summer.
 

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I will be buying mine on X-plan since I work for a supplier, so my price will be set. I doubt any dealers will have huge mark ups on the Fiesta, but they probably won't be selling them at cost either.
 

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It's a crap shoot, it all depends on early demand. If the interest in the Fiesta we see on this board translates to the real world, then I'd prepare for a serious gouging/waiting-list situation, especially for loaded hatchbacks. Good thing I want a sedan :)

My strategy is to order early and be very clear with the dealer that I am not paying anything more than MSRP and pre-established fees. It appears that approach worked for some Camaro buyers. Of course this whole "reserve online" thing could hurt that strategy. It may create some bogus orders that have to go through they system anyway, until at the last minute the customer bails out.
 

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Ahh the benefits of working for a major company, I get DISCOUNTS!!!!!
 

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Mine will be D Plan so mine will be fixed also
 

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It basically comes down to finding a respectable, honest dealer that does not engage in the shady, ridiculous tatics that so many dealers think is justified because others are doing it too. I will never discuss buying a vehicle from a lot that places extra window stickers for LOA, Market Adjustment, Paint Protection, etc. It amazes me that this practice has continued even with the current recession and drop in auto sales; frankly, it is yet another reason the public finds dealing with cars to be more frustrating than rewarding. Fortunately there are plenty of typically smaller market dealerships more than willing to make reasonable deals on even highly demanded products at or below MSRP, so when the time comes I'll remain loyal to those.
 

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I get A plan which is nice these days. Isnt it possible that a dealership refuses a sale to A plan customers if they can sell that same car for a much larger markup, or is that A plan price completely set in stone:confused:?
 

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I get A plan which is nice these days. Isnt it possible that a dealership refuses a sale to A plan customers if they can sell that same car for a much larger markup, or is that A plan price completely set in stone:confused:?
The dealer can choose not to honor A,D,X etc plans but that would be stupid on there part because they still get money from Ford and they get the credit for moving the car off the lot which helps in future floorplanning with Ford.

Also I hate too point out the obvious but the only reason that the dealers would know that the cars are in high demand is because of people coming in because of the social media such as this creating the postive buzz and if the social media can create positive buzz that drives demand it can also turn out bad dealers and Ford if it is treated unfairly for creating it
 

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the only time I have ever heard of a dealer not accepting A, X, or Z plan is when it comes to something like a GT500 or Cobra R. Never on something regular production.
 

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My Discounts included when at the time, Land Rover and Jag but now that Ford doesn't own them I can not use my Discounts to get them. I can get a hefty Discount on Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac and Saturn (while those two are still being made technically and sold at dealers.)
 

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I can get GM discount as well, but the only thing GM that I would consider is a Vette or CTS-V. Neither are in my price point, and both make terrible winter cars. My wife wanted a Sky or Solstice really bad, but did not want to drive them in the winter. She may get a used MX5 in a few years for a summer toy. We need a bigger garage!
 

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A few weeks ago we never got to 45'F as a high! This week has been really nice with temps way above average.
 

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A few weeks ago we never got to 45'F as a high! This week has been really nice with temps way above average.
I'm curious how your Fiesta is performing in very cold temps. I know winters in Michigan can be brutal. After your Fiesta has been sitting outside all night in very cold weather, does the engine start up rough and then smooth out as it warms up or does it start smooth right off the bat? Also does it shift smoothly right away or do you have to wait for the fluid to warm up first?

Thanks!
 

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Considering the extensive cold weather testing that they do on all new cars today I'd be very surprised that there would be any issues at all. Of course we've had the benefit in the USA that any issues or bugs that occured on initial launch in ROW have been solved now.

I do remember that my Dad's early model (04-05) 500 had an issue where occasionally the car would be have long cranks and rough starting during temps at temps below 35 F.

It was fixed quickly with a ECU reflash. No probs since then.
 
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